In this episode of Unspoken Security, host AJ Nash sits down with Heath Mullins, Chief Evangelist at ExtraHop and former senior analyst at Forrester. The two dig into the question everyone in tech keeps circling back to right now: should we be afraid of AI?

Mullins argues that today's AI is best understood as a recalcitrant four-year-old handed the keys to everything, powerful, unpredictable, and rewriting itself faster than anyone can fully audit. AJ and Heath trace that unpredictability through self-driving cars that can't tell a yawn from drunk driving, medical offices where AI now transcribes and recommends diagnoses, and the accountability gap that opens up when something goes wrong and nobody, the automaker, the AI vendor, or a third party, wants to own it.

The conversation closes on Unspoken Security's signature question, and Heath shares something he's never said publicly before: his son was murdered in 2020, and the same AI tools that can recreate a voice or a likeness from old recordings and social media now make it possible to build an avatar of someone who's gone. Heath draws a hard line on where that technology should stop, and AJ and Heath talk through the psychology of grief, denial, and why loss makes that temptation so powerful.