In this episode of Unspoken Security, host AJ Nash sits down with Ken Bagnall, Founder and CEO at Silent Push. They explore how modern attackers spin up vast amounts of infrastructure and why traditional, reactive approaches to detection fall short. Ken explains how focusing on the origins and infrastructure of threats—rather than chasing endless indicators—lets defenders get ahead of attacks and avoid becoming patient zero.

Ken shares how the surge in automation and affordable cloud resources has shifted the balance of power, making it easier for cybercriminals to launch large-scale scams. He describes how automation, language models, and new attack methods are fueling rapid growth in targeted phishing and brand impersonation, especially in regions that haven’t faced these threats before. The conversation also dives into why defenders must keep pace with these changes, adapt processes, and question old habits.

AJ and Ken close by weighing the risks of active defense and the need for careful attribution. They highlight the global shift as countries tighten controls and rethink how to protect digital economies in a fast-moving threat landscape.