Why does security awareness training so often fail? In this episode of Unspoken Security, host AJ Nash welcomes Living Security CEO Ashley M. Rose to discuss this common issue. They explore how compliance-driven, "check-the-box" training creates a false sense of security. This old model relies on vanity metrics and rituals instead of reducing actual human risk. 

Ashley presents a better way forward through human risk management. This modern strategy moves beyond simple phishing tests and integrates data from your existing security tools. It provides a full view of employee behavior to identify and address risks proactively. The goal is to make security training engaging and effective, not just another task to ignore.

The conversation also covers the nuanced relationship between human risk management and insider threat programs. AJ and Ashley discuss how to empower employees and transform them from a potential liability into an organization's greatest security asset, creating a stronger, more resilient workforce.